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Thompson Twins co-founder Tom Bailey joins Kyle Meredith to talk about the 40th anniversary of Into the Gap, as well as co-headlining this summer’s Totally Tubular Festival. Listen to the new episode above, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Bailey tells the story of the Thompson Twins’ 1984 album Into the Gap, as well as their 1994 album The Stone, exploring how the band shifted and evolved between the two releases. He also touches on the need for nonconformist and outsider art, and feeling like current rock lacks social impact.

The artist also previews Totally Tubular Festival, a fest designed for ’80s alternative lovers. In addition to the Bailey, the event features Modern English, Men Without Hats, The Romantics, Bow Wow Wow, and more. Learn more and get tickets here.

Listen to the Thompson Twins’ Tom Bailey talk about all of this and more above, or watch the interview below. To keep up to date with all the latest from Kyle Meredith With… follow on your favorite podcast platform; and stay up on all our series — including our new comedy series Long Time No See — by following the Consequence Podcast Network.